14.7.07

Iranian Jews Refuse Israeli Citizenship and Money to "Repatriate"

Guess they understand the question here.


http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103010.html

And Our Command is but a single (Act),- like the twinkling of an eye.
And (oft) in the past, have We destroyed gangs like unto you: then is there any that will receive admonition? (54;50-51)

10 comments:

bill sherman said...

perhaps..but could it not also be true that to accept this offer would result in harassment, imprisonment, or other horrors?

Carmenisacat said...

Thanks for your comment. I don't know what you mean though...harrassment from other Jews? Iran is a free country and they can leave if they want to. There are over 25,000 practicing Jews (not Zionists) in Iran. The benefactor in the UK was no doubt interested in recruiting Zionists not Jews...big difference because real Jews who know their religion know that their return to the "holy land" is forbidden.


That is the way you know a real one from someone who is just interested in a free condo and some stipends from a rogue state hell bent on the destruction of muslims and Islam.

bill sherman said...

dear Lady Jane,

Thank you for your response. Not having been to Iran, I cannot dispute with depth your belief that it is a "free country" - especially for women. I would, however, sincerely like to know where in Judaism you find that a return to the "Holy Land" is "forbidden"....

Carmenisacat said...

Salaam

Sure...right after you show me the place where it says the land belongs to them and they have the right to exterminate an entire ethnic group in order to take it back.

:)

In any event...Israel is going to be gone one day due to its own evil. The muslims actually do not have to lift a finger to destroy this illegal state. They are doing a fine job of destroying themselves you know..internally, externally and in the collective consciousness of all people all over the world.


Those who do not understand that are apparently evil as well because they condone such activity under the auspices of the legacy of Hitler and what was "due" to these ex New Yorkers and Soviet Republic refuseniks. Sorry but that is how it is and it is written in the Quran that Islam will prevail over all religions because...well...Mr. Sherman...because God said so.

Not me.

Read the Quran and you'll find all the evidence you need.

Carmenisacat said...

Oh..and I look forward to browsing your blog when I return stateside next week. Lots of interesting stuff but there isn't a way to comment there ?

In any event....the movies.

You forgot Dr. Zhivago...mustn't do that... :)

And Cinema Paradiso...that mustn't be excluded.


As for why a person "blogs"...well. Perhaps I will find and post the initial anti blog post from years gone by and how I swore I'd never stoop to such levels as imagining myself of such import to the world as to enter the ranks of "blogger". It's a great post.

One blogs in order to remember, to record and to document one's responses to the world. This is the reason I have not taken away anything about the "Jews" who so impacted my life last year but in essence paints me as a truly terrible anti semite.

And you see...those WERE Jews who did that Mr. Sherman. That is a FACT.

The reason the Jews hate the muslims and especially the Shia is because they are no longer in the line of Sayeds Mr. Sherman.

A Sayed is a person from the household of a prophet.

I am of course pleased that you've visited my blog...my little bit of personal history. Perhaps when I get back to the US I'll write something more up your alley after reading a bit more of your personal bit of history. Right now I just drop a few things I find here and there... I've just been too busy trying to sort through my possessions and digest a bit more of what we have all been through (here in Lebanon) and what more we'll have to go through in the coming years.

All my best and salaams.

bill sherman said...

dear L.

again, appreciate your response...you can "comment" on my blog only via e-mail to me, the address being listed under "complete profile"...re: movies: yes, i liked dr. z. of course (i suppose i like julie christie as much as i imagine you like omar sharif - her last film, "away from her" is quite beautiful) - and cinema p, remembered less vividly, as well -but as i said, one cannot list everything. re: bell tolls which you list in your profile, part of me thinks it perhaps the finest amernovel of the last century, but another part of me thinks it needs a bit of editing out bloat, so i listed across the river, his final novel -(old man being a novella of sorts), and the one most decried as being unconscious self-parody. ..... on more serious matters - my own heritage is Jewish, and as you yourself have noted, not all Jewish people are Zionist or support Israel or wat Israel has done/is doing. or hate Muslims. sometimes i feel the reverse is true, sad to say. anyway, i myself no longer believe in God - i wish i did. but i am entitled to my agnosticism and resist any forcible conversion to any imposed belief or control. Salaam (and shalom) to you too, and Faaitoito, as Tahitian people say. bill (sherman - no relation to the general or the tank). and if you are in Lebanon, remember me to Ruwayda Rifka, if you ever meet her..... (from London, July 22)

Carmenisacat said...

Ah well...yes. For Whom the Bell Tolls is a magnificent work. Not of course anywhere near Anna Karenina hahaha. To read such an epic novel...only for the final statement (the entire plot in a nutshell) of truth regarding families and happiness. Then of course there is In Praise of Older Women.

The BEST book ever written in my estimation is Lolita. Unless you include in the list The Count of Monte Cristo and Lady Chatterly's Lover. Now those are books.

To be honest though...I never read. I haven't read a book of fiction in almost two years. I now read mostly old Shia texts which are absolutely fascinating.

Basically I just study the Quran ALOT. I don't necessarily think a person has to be religious or a believer to understand it but it does help. And like I have said to many people...no one mentions the agnostic muslims. There are many. The Quran is aimed at all types of believer/non believer and has tremendous linguistic power. It is the most important book of our time Mr. Sherman. Personally, I believe people are just afraid of reading it...it will of course elicit feelings of various sorts from different people. As well, it is an awfully boring read for the first readers...it takes time and committment to appreciate what it is saying and how it is being said..the context, the history and the flexibility of it play as much a role in the reading of it as does the personal "moral" history of the reader. That last bit is of utmost importance. How on earth can a person read something if they do not believe in the author or are antagonistic to same? This is what leads most non muslims astray...and most of them believe the Quran to be written by Mohamed (SA) rather than recited by him as per divine instruction. I tell people that in order to grasp it...it is helpful to "listen" to it as if one is listening to a verbatim cassette recording. It is the actual recording of revelation and therefore it comes across to those who are unaware as a jumbled mess. I assure you, it is not.

I do not know of Ruwayda Rifka. Is she someone I should recognize?

And Shaloms back at you for sure.

bill sherman said...

nice little poem you posted july 25., and good luck to you and yours. at any rate, i am going to sign off on our dialogue/discourse after this post. you can have the last word if you like. i begin to feel exposed - doubtless my fault for initiating, but i shy away from publishing letters (even of this nature) ..... quickly then: i'd put Moby Dick and Melville's oeuvre (esp. Bartleby, Benito Cereno, The Chola Widow) up againt the Russian greats any day. ... Lolita i thought one must read in Tehran. and i think it was Ed Dorn in early poem in North Atlantic Turbine perhaps (do not have my books in London) said Lady Chatterly brought socialsim to England. ..... The belief in "the author" as you write can (and is, is it not?) a becoming rather than something a priori. And "antagonism" can be initial resistance to what is felt to be antithetical to the held belief at the time, and it can be overcome. i'm going to have to ask my friend Keith Woolnough (see my post for nov. 18, 2005 on omoo part 1 - i.e. iprefernotto.blogspot.com (India With Pen And Sword) for further information) what "SA" after Mohammed signifies, since i do not know. He has a beautiful copy of an Iranian Quran by the way, but of course it is in Arabic, so obviously i cannot read it. I have read in the Marmaduke translation into prose English, but I imagine there are better ones, and yes, i will admit to you that in part of each Surah in the Marmaduke text (authorized i think by the london central mosque) were things i found quite objectionable, and though i know there are rationalizations/ historic reasons which can explain anti-Judaic takes and evangelical swords, it tended to obscure the compassion for me. and as for "divine revelation" i don't mean to conflate, attack, or trivialize but Geo. Bush believes he too acts upon received word from God. Buddhist texts are at least peaceful. and yes, years ago in south london while i was helping to teach a group of Muslim children immigrants to Britain, probably many who would today be thought of as asylum seekers, i heard the Quran chanted in a makeshift mosque. of course as a child i recall the cantor(s) singing in a synagogue. more recently the Hymenae in a Polynesian church where the song chant prayers seemed both written and improvised simultaneously. which is what you were saying, attempting to disclose, sort of, i think. ..... finally, to answer your question: she wrote poems and a story, in English, THE BLUE NOTE, which i published in the final issue of my journal, Branch Redd Review (issue 6, 2002, now o.p.). from Beirut, she was a student of Khalil Hawi. (nice issue it was too if i do say so myself: some poems by Michael March; translation of a Boris Vian; last letters (1990) from the late poet Asa Benveniste, an old friend; essay by Marie Terese and Bengt Daniellson (he of the Kon Tiki expedition); cover by Michael Dougherty, author of TO STEAL A KINGDOM, and much other stuff.) have only 2 or 3 personal copies left, only a few hundred print run. well, never mind, BLUE NOTE's not a sacred text or anything...........here in London, THE GIRLS OF RIYADH by Rajaa Alsanea getting good ink. banned in saudi Arabia of course. also an interesting piece by Tariq Ali in current London Review of Books. and a first biography published of the great R.S. Thomas, THE MAN WHO WENT INTO THE WEST, which i am reading now.

Carmenisacat said...

Ah well...I'll hate to see you go and I will pay attention to your blog and if anything stirs me enough I'll send you an email as you have suggested.

I am certainly not in your league of discussing literature but that's okay. I've never been much of an elitist and it seems you aren't either...just an honest person and that's great.

Salaams on you for sure Mr. Sherman...it's been a pleasant feeling to have a few civilized posts after so many that have been nothing but personal attacks and poetry inspired vendettas.

All my best

Meg

Carmenisacat said...

Oh and btw..thanks for liking the Buttoning of the Pea Coats poem. It is one of my best and I hoped you'd see it and get past the fact that I am what I am and you no doubt are conflicted about that sort of thing. Once in a while I have to remind others (and myself) that I am still a poet and it is one of the best ways to unite and express the things that must be known about humanity.

My father fought in the Aleutians...they weren't given enough winter outer wear and he got a bit frozen up there. This poem however was written just before this second invasion of Iraq by Dubya. Things that day were mighty quiet in Beirut...

..as they are now.

Peace